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they came in with john kerry with what i think was the best speech i have ever seen john kerry give. they came in with joe biden who was classic joe biden. n. barack obama, talking in a really tough terms. the democrats suddenly all national security? what happened to american policy as we know it? >> one of the interesting things about this night is it gives democrats a chance to look strong on some of their biggest issues traditionally. both defense and national security. how many times did we hear the name bin laden tonight? one of his favorite lines, osama bin laden is dead and general motors is a life. >> all three of them were killed mitt romney and paul ryan. it was relentless. >> the president wrote it in. -- rubbed it in. and bill clinton had the best speech. what surprised me about this is it seemed aimed more at democrats. this gives you a sense of what's this will be going forward. we can see them try to do that with democrats. he had them chanting, "four more years" constantly. >> i thought going in that -- because bill clinton did so well that barack obama of a competit
they came in with john kerry with what i think was the best speech i have ever seen john kerry give. they came in with joe biden who was classic joe biden. n. barack obama, talking in a really tough terms. the democrats suddenly all national security? what happened to american policy as we know it? >> one of the interesting things about this night is it gives democrats a chance to look strong on some of their biggest issues traditionally. both defense and national security. how many times...
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john kerry called romney's statements, quote, callous and reckless. dan coates who once served as ambassador to germany was asked about the kerry criticism of romney, let's listen. >> let's avoid the political statements right now. >> should that be true of mitt romney as well? >> i think we need to keep the political focus on the election separate from the possible implications of what goes to security and how to protect our citizens abroad. >> and late today president obama weighed in. >> there's a broader lesson to be learned here. you know, governor romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and name later. as president, one of the things i've learned is you can't do that. you know, it's important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and that you've thought through the ramifications before you make them. >> joining us now is ari fleischer, who's an unpaid occasional communications adviser of the romney campaign and cornell belcher. ari, the governor said last night the administration's first respons
john kerry called romney's statements, quote, callous and reckless. dan coates who once served as ambassador to germany was asked about the kerry criticism of romney, let's listen. >> let's avoid the political statements right now. >> should that be true of mitt romney as well? >> i think we need to keep the political focus on the election separate from the possible implications of what goes to security and how to protect our citizens abroad. >> and late today president...
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we're awaiting john kerry's speech this evening as well. thanks for watching us. we'll be right back p. >> bill: we continue from charlotte, north carolina, john kerry, the senator from massachusetts, former presidential candidate, will be talking soon. we'll go to him when that happens. so let's bring in james rosen and john roberts, our two correspondents on the floor. let's begin with you, the closing prayer tonight is going to be by cardinal dolan who gave the invitation at the republican convention. this sets off a little awkwardness back stage with caroline kennedy earlier this evening saying as a catholic, i want unfettered abortion, which is -- to dolan, sack reledge big time. i'm wondering, i don't think dolan will say anything to her because that's not pastoral. but it's kind of weird, is it not? >> look, it's probably not the first time they've met and it's probably not the first time that the archbishop has become acquainted with caroline kennedy's views on this and other subjects. it is certain that caroline kennedy, when she addresses these kinds of
we're awaiting john kerry's speech this evening as well. thanks for watching us. we'll be right back p. >> bill: we continue from charlotte, north carolina, john kerry, the senator from massachusetts, former presidential candidate, will be talking soon. we'll go to him when that happens. so let's bring in james rosen and john roberts, our two correspondents on the floor. let's begin with you, the closing prayer tonight is going to be by cardinal dolan who gave the invitation at the...
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you see john kerry. you see gaby giffords, you see eva longoria, all of the people who are lined up to speak. so there is a real sense of camaraderie. it is not posh in any way. there's a plate of grapes and some water. but other than that, really, it is all about what's happening on stage. not what's happening backstage. >> cenk: one more question along those lines. you said that speeches get slashed because of time reasons. is there one line or direction you were going to go in the speech that got cut that you could share with us here with our audience? >> jennifer: well, i did have a really good line that you know, i talked about the solo at ford and how the rest of the story or the rest of the line was it is unfortunate that that guy at ford and workers like him weren't able to pull themselves up by their father's bootstraps. i think the guys would have liked that. i didn't have a chance to say that. >> eliot: that's a great line. save it and use it some other time. >> jennifer: thanks. don't tell an
you see john kerry. you see gaby giffords, you see eva longoria, all of the people who are lined up to speak. so there is a real sense of camaraderie. it is not posh in any way. there's a plate of grapes and some water. but other than that, really, it is all about what's happening on stage. not what's happening backstage. >> cenk: one more question along those lines. you said that speeches get slashed because of time reasons. is there one line or direction you were going to go in the...
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you heard my friend john kerry. this president, this president, has shown the same resolve, the same steady hand, in his role as commander in chief, this brings me to the next il illustration o tell you bthe next crisis he faced, in 2008 before he was president, barack obama made a promise to the american people, he said, if i -- if we have bin laden in our sights, we will we will take him out. he said, he went on to say, that has to be our biggest national security priority. look, barack understood that the search for bin laden was about a lot more than taking a monsterrous leader off of the battle field, it was about so much more. it was about righting a wrong. it was about healing, a an embearable wound, he knew message he had to sip around world. if you attack, innocent americans we'll tell you to the end of the earth. look, most of all, most will all, president obama had an unyielding faith in the capacity and capability of our special forces, the finest warriors in the history of the world. the finest warriors
you heard my friend john kerry. this president, this president, has shown the same resolve, the same steady hand, in his role as commander in chief, this brings me to the next il illustration o tell you bthe next crisis he faced, in 2008 before he was president, barack obama made a promise to the american people, he said, if i -- if we have bin laden in our sights, we will we will take him out. he said, he went on to say, that has to be our biggest national security priority. look, barack...
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john kerry knows this. and just as lieutenant kerry did not hesitate to risk his life to protect the men who served with him in vietnam, president kerry will not hesitate one moment to use our military might to keep america safe and secure. john kerry believes in america. and he knows that it's not enough for just some of us to prosper. for alongside our famous individualism, there's another ingredient in the american saga. a belief that we're all connected as one people. if there is a child on the south side of chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. if there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for their prescription drugs, and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandparent. if there's an arab american family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. it is that fundamental belief, it is that fundamental belief, i am my brother's keeper, i am my sister's kee
john kerry knows this. and just as lieutenant kerry did not hesitate to risk his life to protect the men who served with him in vietnam, president kerry will not hesitate one moment to use our military might to keep america safe and secure. john kerry believes in america. and he knows that it's not enough for just some of us to prosper. for alongside our famous individualism, there's another ingredient in the american saga. a belief that we're all connected as one people. if there is a child on...
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. >> senator john kerry on stage tonight. now back to president obama's speech. >> i don't know what party these men and women belong to. i don't know if they'll vote for me. but i know their spirit defines us. they remind me in the words of scripture that ours is a future filled with hope. and if you share that faith with me, if you share that hope with me, i ask you tonight for your vote. if you reject the notion that this nation's promise is reserved for the few, your voice must be heard in this election. if you reject the notion that our government is forever beholden to the highest bidder, you need to stand up in this election. if you believe that new plants and factories can dot our landscape, that new energy can power our future, that new schools can provide ladders of opportunity to this nation of dreamers, if you believe in a country where everyone gets a fair shot and everyone does their fair share and everyone plays by the same rules, then i need you to vote this november. [ cheers and applause ] america, i never s
. >> senator john kerry on stage tonight. now back to president obama's speech. >> i don't know what party these men and women belong to. i don't know if they'll vote for me. but i know their spirit defines us. they remind me in the words of scripture that ours is a future filled with hope. and if you share that faith with me, if you share that hope with me, i ask you tonight for your vote. if you reject the notion that this nation's promise is reserved for the few, your voice must...
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. >> senator john kerry on stage tonight. now back to president obama's speech. >> i don't know what party these men and women belong to. i don't know if they'll vote for me. but i know that their spirit defines us. they remind me in the words of scripture that ours is a future filled with hope. and if you share that faith with me, if you share that hope with me, i ask you tonight for your vote. if you reject the notion that this nation's promise is reserved for the few, your voice must be heard in this election. if you reject the notion that our government is forever beholden to the highest bidder, you need to stand up in this election. if you believe that new plants and factories can dot our landscape, that new energy can power our future, that new schools can provide ladders of opportunity to this nation of dreamers, if you believe in a country where everyone gets a fair shot and everyone does their fair sre and everyone plays by the same rules, then i need you to vote this november. america, i never said this journey woul
. >> senator john kerry on stage tonight. now back to president obama's speech. >> i don't know what party these men and women belong to. i don't know if they'll vote for me. but i know that their spirit defines us. they remind me in the words of scripture that ours is a future filled with hope. and if you share that faith with me, if you share that hope with me, i ask you tonight for your vote. if you reject the notion that this nation's promise is reserved for the few, your voice...
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four years earlier, so did john kerry. this is hardly knew. getting sanctimonious about it. republicans didn't like it when democrats did. they'm sure the democrats are no fans of republicans doing it now. that is politics. this is rage is politics, too. i'll say this, as jimmy carter. when he claimed the iranian hostage crisis kept him hunkered down in white house and couldn't do anything else, he really was hunkered in the white house, and not doing anything else. i don't know what he doing in there. kennedy was iing to debate him and reagan was iing and eager to debate him. but carter remained are you collusive. only one debate that year. true to his word or maybe true to avoiding appearing less than presidential. but the strategy didn't work out well for carter, which might be while barack obama isn't exactly copying it. saying you are all consumed in the mideast crisis but not so consumed you are actually to be consumed 24/7 at the white house to deal with it. i've had enough of it. white house that dares to call mitt romney opportunenistic and the same time passing up
four years earlier, so did john kerry. this is hardly knew. getting sanctimonious about it. republicans didn't like it when democrats did. they'm sure the democrats are no fans of republicans doing it now. that is politics. this is rage is politics, too. i'll say this, as jimmy carter. when he claimed the iranian hostage crisis kept him hunkered down in white house and couldn't do anything else, he really was hunkered in the white house, and not doing anything else. i don't know what he doing...
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watching john kerry and joe biden criticizing -- they voted for the war, he shut down debate about the war in iraq. i'm not thinking about this from a cynical political perspective, it's life or death issues. >> a lot of things i think are getting bound up. there's ending the war in iraq, right? the status forces agreement negotia negotiated, and the president did end the war at the end of the day. we keep up a force of paid mercenaries behind, but troops have been brought them. i think that is in one column. there is extension, the surge in afghanistan, right? 87,000 troops there and the deadline for that. there is the decision to order the strike against osama bin laden, and then there is the massive drone policy and end all of engagements in terms of bombing and drones. we're going to continue this conversation on our website msnbc.com. and our usual time slot at 8:00 eastern. for this special afternoon edition of up, we have to cut it short here. i want to thank peter, telsey, jeremy, and michelle. thank you for getting up. thank you for joining us for this special afternoon editio
watching john kerry and joe biden criticizing -- they voted for the war, he shut down debate about the war in iraq. i'm not thinking about this from a cynical political perspective, it's life or death issues. >> a lot of things i think are getting bound up. there's ending the war in iraq, right? the status forces agreement negotia negotiated, and the president did end the war at the end of the day. we keep up a force of paid mercenaries behind, but troops have been brought them. i think...
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with mitt romney in the john kerry mode. massachusetts stiff with good hair and not a lot of connection to the american public. >> and not a lot of spine, right, the flip-flopper. >> the flip-flopping, so what the bush people did that year was took kerry apart. and even though bush was not all that popular and the war wasn't popular, he managed to get reelected by essentially undermining his opponent, and that is pretty much obama's strategy this time. >> it's funny that you mention the obama speech and it not being, in your opinion, one of his greatest oratorical accomplishments, so to speak, and i would agree with that. what i remember from 2008 was the energy in the room, emotion. >> big football stadium. >> you could feel it coming through the television. and i think a lot has been made of this idea that, oh, the base isn't as energized, they are not as excited about him this time around, but i have to tell you, we just had steve kornacki from charlotte and they were going absolutely crazy. i think people underestimate h
with mitt romney in the john kerry mode. massachusetts stiff with good hair and not a lot of connection to the american public. >> and not a lot of spine, right, the flip-flopper. >> the flip-flopping, so what the bush people did that year was took kerry apart. and even though bush was not all that popular and the war wasn't popular, he managed to get reelected by essentially undermining his opponent, and that is pretty much obama's strategy this time. >> it's funny that you...
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we will hear a lot of that the next few days especially from john kerry. >>shepard: president obama could have ended the wars. he is the president. >>guest: he say that he inned the war in iraq and is bringing the war in afghanistan to a close. we heard that from deval patrick, the governor of massachusetts. >>shepard: is there a noticeable difference between the two conventions? >>guest: there was a pall over the convention in tampa because of the hurricane. ann romney and mitt romney had to do a great job but because of the distraction they did not get the enthusiasm they hoped for. i sense a difference in the kind of enthusiasm we see her. >>shepard: i heard ann romney blew the roof off the place. >>guest: she absolutely did. but because the people know michelle obama so well and they expected a lot from her there was more excitement in this room than for ann romney. >>shepard: they already know the first lady harks is -- that is for sure. >>shepard: and republicans are pouncing on the platform, no mention of god or no next of jerusalem. and florida and
we will hear a lot of that the next few days especially from john kerry. >>shepard: president obama could have ended the wars. he is the president. >>guest: he say that he inned the war in iraq and is bringing the war in afghanistan to a close. we heard that from deval patrick, the governor of massachusetts. >>shepard: is there a noticeable difference between the two conventions? >>guest: there was a pall over the convention in tampa because of the hurricane. ann romney...
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[cheers and applause] >> look, you heard my friend john kerry. this president, this president has shown the same resolve, the same steady hand in his role as commander in chief. look, which brings me to the next illustration i want to tell you about, the next crisis he had to face. in 2008, 2008, before he was president, barack obama made a promise to the american people. he said, if i -- if we have bin laden in our sights, we will, we will take him out. he went on to say, he went on to say, that has to be our biggest national security priority. look, barack understood that the search for bin laden was a lot more than taking the monster off the battlefield. it was more than that. it was about righting an unspeakable wrong and it was about healing an unbearable wound, a nearly unbearable wound in america's heart. and he also knew, he also knew the message we had to send around the world. if you attack innocent americans, we will follow you to the end of the earth. [cheers and applause] >> look. [chanting u.s.a.] >> most of all, president obama had
[cheers and applause] >> look, you heard my friend john kerry. this president, this president has shown the same resolve, the same steady hand in his role as commander in chief. look, which brings me to the next illustration i want to tell you about, the next crisis he had to face. in 2008, 2008, before he was president, barack obama made a promise to the american people. he said, if i -- if we have bin laden in our sights, we will, we will take him out. he went on to say, he went on to...
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back during that 2004 campaign that john kerry versus george w. bush campaign, in the spring of that year, photos surfaced that showed something going horribly wrong in one of the bush wars. photos from an american run prison in iraq called abu ghraib. they showed the prisoners being mistreated horribly and bizarrely. sexual humiliation, obvious physical abuse, sexual assault. prisoners being menaced by dogs, it was just obscene and medieval. and it was americans who were doing it. ultimately, 11 soldiers were charged and convicted. the commanding general in charge of prisons in iraq was demoted. but that was it. donald rumsfeld stayed, bush got re-elected. the war went on for another seven years before we got a new president who ended it. as much as we may have just decided to move on from all that and consign it to the way we think of the bush era, which is over, there has been all these years one element of abu ghraib that could not really just be over. and it was this. these are army reservists, we have blurred both faces, but army reservists
back during that 2004 campaign that john kerry versus george w. bush campaign, in the spring of that year, photos surfaced that showed something going horribly wrong in one of the bush wars. photos from an american run prison in iraq called abu ghraib. they showed the prisoners being mistreated horribly and bizarrely. sexual humiliation, obvious physical abuse, sexual assault. prisoners being menaced by dogs, it was just obscene and medieval. and it was americans who were doing it. ultimately,...
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then senator john kerry delivering some blistering zingers against mitt romney. did the democrats steal the republicans foreign policy thunder. general wesley clark will join me. plus from fist pumping to tears, some of the great moments from last night's convention that you might have missed. we got the round up four. that and much more coming your way next. you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. this is the age of taking ac
then senator john kerry delivering some blistering zingers against mitt romney. did the democrats steal the republicans foreign policy thunder. general wesley clark will join me. plus from fist pumping to tears, some of the great moments from last night's convention that you might have missed. we got the round up four. that and much more coming your way next. you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let...
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here's john kerry. let's listen. >> no nominee for president should ever fail in the midst of a war to pay tribute to our troops overseas in his acceptance speech. mitt romney, mitt romney was talking about america. they are on the front lines every day defending america and they deserve our thanks. >> you know, the difference between conventions is unbelievable, congressman. i don't know. it was like a business meeting people were forced to go to. this is about spirit, this is about people and almost like john henry going against the machine. >> you know what i said yesterday, chris, i was one of the local media outlets grabbed me and they said, how would you describe the feeling here? i said, it might sound sophomoric but it is happy, people have very happy here. people are enjoying themselves. i don't know what it is, but it's been great. >> that moment when john kerry talked about the fact that mitt romney didn't even mention our troops that are fighting in afghanistan now in his entire speech, you
here's john kerry. let's listen. >> no nominee for president should ever fail in the midst of a war to pay tribute to our troops overseas in his acceptance speech. mitt romney, mitt romney was talking about america. they are on the front lines every day defending america and they deserve our thanks. >> you know, the difference between conventions is unbelievable, congressman. i don't know. it was like a business meeting people were forced to go to. this is about spirit, this is...
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>> everybody has their own style and john kerry was so good he should have given that kind of speech when he was running as the nominee of a party. bill clinton the night before was true clintonesque. obama has his own style and i thought what he tried to eject was an optimism, a forward looking position, not dwelling on the past and look, he's got a supportive audience of the party faithful. you really can't give a bad speech in this at. >> did president obama tonight make it clearer than perhaps ever before that there really is sort of a have's and have not's in his vision of america? >> well, he said that there were a different perspective about how to solve the problems of this country and that there were different paths and that it was definitely a different choice to choose him rather than governor romney. so it was very clear and very distinctive and i thought he also tried to go after governor romney in terms of lack of military experience and tried to also history his image as somebody who had been tested. >> do you see the administration getting a bounce here as typically t
>> everybody has their own style and john kerry was so good he should have given that kind of speech when he was running as the nominee of a party. bill clinton the night before was true clintonesque. obama has his own style and i thought what he tried to eject was an optimism, a forward looking position, not dwelling on the past and look, he's got a supportive audience of the party faithful. you really can't give a bad speech in this at. >> did president obama tonight make it...
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bush lost three debas to john kerry. and still won the election. but so it's not necessarily dispose difficult debate performance. >> rose: for a challenger it's more important. >> what do you think in debates while we're on that subject. you mentioned george w. bush. if you ask people about him versus gore or him versus john kerry, he is the more likable guy in the debate. >> right. >> rose: is that a factor? you know because we know although it is now being challenged by some but i have to say that because jim taught me to say that there is some question about the notion that nixon won on radio but didn't win on television. some people raise doubts about that, i don't know. but clearly presentation makes a difference. >> the debate does reveal character. >> rose: because george bush looked at his watch, george bush 41, that was a kind of sigh on the part of al gore, those had nothing to do with the give-and-take of the debate. they had to do with how people said-- you know. >> it tapped into a preexisting stereotype. >> rose: bill clinton walking
bush lost three debas to john kerry. and still won the election. but so it's not necessarily dispose difficult debate performance. >> rose: for a challenger it's more important. >> what do you think in debates while we're on that subject. you mentioned george w. bush. if you ask people about him versus gore or him versus john kerry, he is the more likable guy in the debate. >> right. >> rose: is that a factor? you know because we know although it is now being challenged...
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bush's re-election victory over john kerry. through the second bush term. the war in iraq. the feet for the democratic nomination in which barack obama prevailed over hillary clinton. this first obama term in office. as a reminder that many of the issues our country faces today were with us then. take a look at how our very first show began. a blank check. president bush wants a double barrel of power to go after iraq. the doctrine too brazen? were we warned? and the details on what the c.i.a. and the f.b.i. knew about a possible attack on the world trade center before 9-11:who will take the heat? clinton, bush? or the spies who couldn't see straight? the sounds of the democrats. tom daschle calls the bush economy atrorks but has no democratic alternative. unable to challenge the president's war or his tax cuts, are the democrats afraid to fight for anything? we were debating invasion of iraq back then. the panel on that first show, david brooks, then of the whitley standard and the new republics, michelle cotto. i asked about the advice george w. bush was getting from some
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that was a john kerry i had not seen with a confidence and intensity and passion not there. and actually makes fun of himself. he said before mitt romney was for it he was against it which was reminiscent of john kerry's own misstatement in that 2004 campaign, concerning aid to iraq that voted for it before he voted against it. >> well, we are we want to go now to hari sreenivasan and when we were in tam park a reminder, we talked with dick durbin and today hari sreenivasan sat down with bob mcdonald here in charlotte. >> as part of the rebut tall team you've watched the campaign roll its narrative out for the past few days. what do you think? >> both parties try to showcase the best and brightest points and the surrogates and the principles during the campaigns. a lot of it is aimed at the independent voters on tv. but a lot is enthusing the base the people that are there. the bottom line what i see is bill clinton gave a great speech. michelle obama gave a very personal and good speech for her husband. president obama is will give a wonderful speech tonight he is very good
that was a john kerry i had not seen with a confidence and intensity and passion not there. and actually makes fun of himself. he said before mitt romney was for it he was against it which was reminiscent of john kerry's own misstatement in that 2004 campaign, concerning aid to iraq that voted for it before he voted against it. >> well, we are we want to go now to hari sreenivasan and when we were in tam park a reminder, we talked with dick durbin and today hari sreenivasan sat down with...
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kerry was going to be president. >> fox news apparently that night, they thought john kerry was going to win until the very end. >> and you have to remember the down ballot races matter a lot. >> congress and senate. >> then republicans are going, they need to redouble their efforts to retake the senate and that's looking dicesy. that's why president obama had active efforts in texas in 2008 because those down ballot races really matter for the future and for your leverage when you come into office. >> thanks to all three and please let us now whether you think the polls are actually reflecting the real numbers right now. >>> next, there are very conflicting stories about what happened that night in libya. it is now being called benghazi gate and police arrive at a gruesome murder scene and find a young television star dead in the driveway. >>> benjamin netanyahu drew a red line, literally, had the big, fat, wasn't a skinny little sharpie. it was a fat, red line. we're sitting on a bunch of shale gas. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ it means cleaner, cheape
kerry was going to be president. >> fox news apparently that night, they thought john kerry was going to win until the very end. >> and you have to remember the down ballot races matter a lot. >> congress and senate. >> then republicans are going, they need to redouble their efforts to retake the senate and that's looking dicesy. that's why president obama had active efforts in texas in 2008 because those down ballot races really matter for the future and for your...
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numbers changed a lot for john ker kerry, came back through debates two and three. >> john kerry still lost. >> policy speeches at this stage is very, very hard, not just to ingest for the voters but to break through for the candidates. you -- what we started out with the election republicans wanted it to be a referendum on obama. to pick up howard's point, it went from being a referendum on obama to a choice between the two parties and there is a danger it's a referendum on the republican party. >> yeah. >> and that's so far from where they need to be. one great performance isn't going to fix that. >> doesn't help if you have a candidate who isn't quite sure where he stands on one major of the major planks of the party. governor romney and congressman paul ryan are running like their republican predecessors on the promise of tax cuts. does cutting taxes fuel economic growth? new york sometimes david leonhardt explains why the good times may not necessarily roll next on "now." bob... oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's alwa
numbers changed a lot for john ker kerry, came back through debates two and three. >> john kerry still lost. >> policy speeches at this stage is very, very hard, not just to ingest for the voters but to break through for the candidates. you -- what we started out with the election republicans wanted it to be a referendum on obama. to pick up howard's point, it went from being a referendum on obama to a choice between the two parties and there is a danger it's a referendum on the...